Comments on: Christians aren’t delusional http://www.intelliot.com/blog/archives/2007/02/21/christians-arent-delusional/ Thoughts, opinions and fascinating discoveries by Elliot, a student at USC Fri, 16 May 2008 02:17:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: John http://www.intelliot.com/blog/archives/2007/02/21/christians-arent-delusional/#comment-253537 John Mon, 21 May 2007 23:34:49 +0000 http://www.intelliot.com/blog/archives/2007/02/21/christians-arent-delusional/#comment-253537 I don't know where to begin answering your explanation of why god does not heal amputees. One place to start, though, would be your statement that it would take 20 pages to explain that science doesn't know everything. It simply doesn't. Science is a method not a dogma. It enables one to observe, theirize, test and draw tentative conclusions that can lead to further theory. If every possible test is tried and the theory proves true it becomes a law. If A theory is tested in as mony ways as are available it may be treated as a law but until all possible tests are done it remains a theory i. e. Theory of Realtivity. To your explanation about why god won't heal an amputee. If he did then no faith would be required? What about the New Testament when Jesus healed the blind,lepers, the lame and raised the dead? If that happened then why is faith still required? Truth was not the same in Biblical times as it is today? Then why follow the Bible at all? It's obviuosly irrelevant to today's world even though it was divinely inspired? Is there a half-life to divine inspiration that makes it less divine as knowledge increases? Your arguments betray your confusion. You state that it "takes a certain kind of believer one whose own desires are in line with God's." How does one arrive at this conclusion? If your prayer is answered you are aligned with god and if you're an amputee you're not aligned with god? Does the Bible mention amputees anywhere? If amputees are not excluded from miracles then why don't they grow bak limbs and eyes? Quit trying to fool yourself. You make arguments that aren't in any Bible. They're the concoctions of rationalizers. The deeper the argument the more rationalization it takes to deflect the answers. I don’t know where to begin answering your explanation of why god does not heal amputees. One place to start, though, would be your statement that it would take 20 pages to explain that science doesn’t know everything. It simply doesn’t. Science is a method not a dogma. It enables one to observe, theirize, test and draw tentative conclusions that can lead to further theory. If every possible test is tried and the theory proves true it becomes a law. If A theory is tested in as mony ways as are available it may be treated as a law but until all possible tests are done it remains a theory i. e. Theory of Realtivity.

To your explanation about why god won’t heal an amputee. If he did then no faith would be required? What about the New Testament when Jesus healed the blind,lepers, the lame and raised the dead? If that happened then why is faith still required?

Truth was not the same in Biblical times as it is today? Then why follow the Bible at all? It’s obviuosly irrelevant to today’s world even though it was divinely inspired? Is there a half-life to divine inspiration that makes it less divine as knowledge increases?

Your arguments betray your confusion. You state that it “takes a certain kind of believer one whose own desires are in line with God’s.” How does one arrive at this conclusion? If your prayer is answered you are aligned with god and if you’re an amputee you’re not aligned with god? Does the Bible mention amputees anywhere? If amputees are not excluded from miracles then why don’t they grow bak limbs and eyes?

Quit trying to fool yourself. You make arguments that aren’t in any Bible. They’re the concoctions of rationalizers. The deeper the argument the more rationalization it takes to deflect the answers.

]]> By: Sam http://www.intelliot.com/blog/archives/2007/02/21/christians-arent-delusional/#comment-226025 Sam Thu, 22 Feb 2007 01:11:37 +0000 http://www.intelliot.com/blog/archives/2007/02/21/christians-arent-delusional/#comment-226025 God is not a cosmic vending machine. John 15:7. "If you abide in me and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you." How can people expect answers to their prayers if they don't fulfill the first part of that verse? God is not a cosmic vending machine.

John 15:7. “If you abide in me and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.”

How can people expect answers to their prayers if they don’t fulfill the first part of that verse?

]]> By: katy http://www.intelliot.com/blog/archives/2007/02/21/christians-arent-delusional/#comment-225919 katy Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:55:46 +0000 http://www.intelliot.com/blog/archives/2007/02/21/christians-arent-delusional/#comment-225919 C.S. Lewis wrote that the reason prayer doesn't always get answered, or that we have a hard time even finding a mechanistic way of treating prayer, is because prayer is not a machine. Let's say you use a piece of paper to chop a tree, and then complain the paper is useless. Someone tells you that paper is not meant to be used to chop trees. You reply, "That's just rationalization. I've just proven that paper is useless. You are delusional in thinking that paper is of any use." That's about how intelligent that argument is about Christians being delusional. C.S. Lewis wrote that the reason prayer doesn’t always get answered, or that we have a hard time even finding a mechanistic way of treating prayer, is because prayer is not a machine.

Let’s say you use a piece of paper to chop a tree, and then complain the paper is useless. Someone tells you that paper is not meant to be used to chop trees. You reply, “That’s just rationalization. I’ve just proven that paper is useless. You are delusional in thinking that paper is of any use.”

That’s about how intelligent that argument is about Christians being delusional.

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