YourLuckyList Scam

Sure, it sends out lots of ads – that’s the purpose of it – but they’re probably selling users’ emails to other parties, as well. My YLL email address has been signed up for a “Writing Zen” newsletter (something I never signed up for). Beware!

Please note: based on comments, I conclude that it’s not spam nor a scam, but it is just slightly misleading. Just keeping you informed :)

9 Responses to “YourLuckyList Scam”

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  2. Mr-Ress says:

    Is “Your Luck List” the ONLY place you’ve given out your email?
    It seems to me you are jumping to conclusions.

  3. Fidens Felix says:

    Is Your Lucky List scam?

    I agree with Mr-Ress here. I think you concluded too early.

    I joined YLL too, and as far as I can think of, there are another two possibilities:

    1. YLL shows the email adress of your downline. It could be that one of your upline (the one who owns Writing Zen) registered your email address to his/her list.

    2. People can add their list to YLL. So, there is a possibility that an owner of a website to which you registered your email address, put his/her list to YLL.

    Make sense, right?

    Fidens Felix
    CashflowIsm.COM

  4. Andrew Stark says:

    FidensFelix hit the nail on the head.

    Did you actually go through the terms and conditions when you joined?

  5. Elliot Lee says:

    As far as giving out my email ONLY to YLL, the answer is yes. I have a dedicated email address used only for YLL business.

    On the other hand, I agree that the service is not a scam in the sense that people usually think of scams. It tells you what it is, and does what it says.

  6. My wife was searching around and found this. Actually, Writing Zen is one of my businesses, and as a member of Your Lucky List, part of the terms and conditions that you signed up for was to be part of the random matrix, which means your information(email address) does go to the autoresponders of those paid members in Your Lucky List for emails outside of the normal Your Lucky List emails.

    Every email sent to you by that autoresponder has an unsubscribe button, and it shows in my system that you did use that option and unsubscribed.

    I totally agree with Andrew in that maybe you didn’t quite read the terms and conditions all the way through.

    So in a nutshell, by signing up for Your Lucky List you did sign up to receive emails from its members, and my newsletter was one of those emails, so to call Your Lucky List a scam is a bit much. I am sure that no emails have been sold or rented to anyone outside of Your Lucky List, because to do so would be detrimental to the service itself.

    Anyways, sorry to see that you were not happy with Your Lucky List or my newsletter, and wish you all the best.

    Tracy
    http://www.writingzen.com/

  7. When you join you should read the terms of the sites =)

    At YourLuckyList you allow them to send your email to your upline autoresponder… and also to his upline autoresponder…

    but also your email is given to some of other members as bonus…

    You also got some emails from otehr persons…

    Is the way YourLuckyList work and next time you really should read what you join before saying its scam :)

  8. R. Duncan says:

    I signed up as a free member of YLL a couple of weeks ago. I received the following email from “[email protected] , yesterday. I followed the links and realize that the one trying to get my PayPal account login information is not a PayPal site. Unfortunately, I picked up on this right after I hit the send key. I immediately went to Paypal and changed my login information. I have removed my email address for privacy reasons.

    See Letter Below:
    __________________________________________________________________________

    Notification of Limited Account Access Inbox Lucky List

    Filter Assistant Reply
    Reply to all Reply to allForward Forward Print Add Your to Contacts list Delete this message Report phishing Show original Message text garbled?
    from Your Lucky List hide details Sep 16 (17 hours ago)
    reply-to Your Lucky List
    to Rebecca Duncan
    date Sep 16, 2007 10:18 PM
    subject [YLL] Notification of Limited Account Access
    mailed-by yourluckylist.com
    ————————————————–
    The FREE List Building Weapon That Started It All!
    “Your Lead Machine” Is Waiting … Are You Ready?
    http://www.yourluckylist.com/recommends/machine
    ————————————————–

    Dear ,

    We appreciate the fact that you chose PayPal to send and receive payments
    for your transactions.

    However, your account has been limited for violating PayPal’s Acceptable
    Use Policy regarding MLM, Pyramid and Matrix Programs. The Policy
    prohibits the use of PayPal to send or receive payments for any form of
    multi-level marketing programs (including online payment randomizers), as
    well as matrix, pyramid and Ponzi schemes, “get rich quick” schemes, or
    other similar ventures. The complete Acceptable Use Policy addressing MLM,
    Pyramid and Matrix Programs can be found at the following URL:

    http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/ua/use/index_frame-outside&ed=rich_quick

    To appeal the limitation on your account, you will need to:

    1. Acess your account and update your profile:

    http://www.paypal-updateaccount.com/?cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=updateprofile

    2. Refund all future violating payments associated.

    This is not intended to be an all-inclusive review or list of your Internet
    sites in violation. Furthermore, the violations of the Policy described
    above are not intended to be an all-inclusive list. It is the
    responsibility of the user to ensure that all transactions comply with the
    Acceptable Use Policy.

    For more information about the status of your account and for instructions
    on how to restore full use of your account, please login to your PayPal
    account. We encourage you to log in and restore full access as soon as
    possible. Should access to your account remain limited for an extended
    period of time, it may result in permanent limitation.

    Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. If you have any
    questions, please contact the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy Department at
    [email protected].

    Sincerely,
    PayPal Acceptable Use Policy Department
    PayPal, an eBay Company

    —————————————————————-
    Copyright © 1999-2007 PayPal. All rights reserved.

    Consumer advisory- PayPal Pte. Ltd., the holder of PayPal’s stored value
    facility, does not require the approval of the Monetary Authority of
    Singapore.
    Users are advised to read the terms and conditions carefully.

    ————————————————–
    To stop receiving messages from us and close your
    account with Your Lucky List use the link below.
    http://www.yourluckylist.com/r.php?0BI6OSPRHSWKWDD6HHU0

    end of email
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    The url below is where the link to “sign in” (above in the letter) goes.

    http://www.paypal-updateaccount.com/?cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=updateprofile

    This is not a Paypal address!!!
    I checked this site on ALEXA and there is “no data”

    I checked it out on Who Is
    _________________________________________________________

    Registrant:
    Domain Discreet
    ATTN: paypal-updateaccount.com
    P.O. Box 278
    Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
    CA
    Email: [email protected]

    Registrar Name….: REGISTER.COM, INC.
    Registrar Whois…: whois.register.com
    Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

    Domain Name: paypal-updateaccount.com

    Created on…………..: Sun, Sep 16, 2007
    Expires on…………..: Tue, Sep 16, 2008
    Record last updated on..: Sun, Sep 16, 2007

    Administrative Contact:
    Domain Discreet
    ATTN: paypal-updateaccount.com
    P.O. Box 278
    Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
    CA
    Phone: 1-902-7495331
    Email: [email protected]

    Technical Contact:
    Domain Discreet
    ATTN: paypal-updateaccount.com
    P.O. Box 278
    Yarmouth, NS B5A 4B2
    CA
    Phone: 1-902-7495331
    Email: 110245c70a1e672900f12c6cf1e7d5c[email protected]
    __________________________________________________________________________

    I checked out Secure Acres on

    Then I get thinking. I try to remember how I found my way to Your Lucky List in the First Place. I then remember that it was on more than one of the free sites I have joined. I realize there has been a web of sites all linked together. They encourage me/you to join other programs and then enter our ID number or name which updates my/your affilliate link page, presumably so when others join they will join up under Me/us.

    And when I looked up YLL on Alexa, I discover that its parent directory or url is called secureacres.com. Then I wonder if all of these linked sites come under secureacres.com and the whole thing is a fraud to get our paypal information.

    FROM ALEXA
    _____________________________________________________________________
    Traffic Rank for Secureaces.com: What’s This?
    Alexa traffic rank based on a combined measure of page views and users (reach)
    Yesterday 1 wk. Avg. 3 mos. Avg. 3 mos. Change
    N/A* 1,5744769,91383 23372,674278676,618 —

    Page Views per user for Secureaces.com: What’s This?
    The number of unique pages viewed per user per day for this site
    Yesterday 1 wk. Avg. 3 mos. Avg. 3 mos. Change
    N/A* 2.980 62158.608 —

    ______________________________________________________________________________

    I sent YLL a support ticket immediately with a copy of the email I received, marked URGENT, suggesting that they alert the membership. No response yet. That was yesterday.

    I’m off to do some more sleuthing, but I am really looking for some feedback here. Am I crazy to wonder if this is all one big FRAUD STRATEGY?

    I’m looking for feedback.

    Thanks,

    Rebecca Duncan

  9. daveM says:

    I am wo9ndering if some people did have success building a good sized list with this service.

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